i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. i want to make one more point. >> let him answer the tax thing for a moment. >> okay. >> mr. president. >> well, we've had this discussion before. >> well, in order -- about the idea to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> mr. romney has rule out revenue. >> look, the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you will never get there, you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. we're now spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path of spain. i want to put more americans to work. >> mr. president, in order to get the job done, it is going to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we have to take a balanced, responsible approach. by the way, this is not just when it comes to in